Well, what do you guys think? The U of Miami is under NCAA investigation and Nevin Shapiro comes out and says he provided all these "things" to former and current football players. I heard about all the stuff that the players were given, and it sounds pretty bad, but does it come close to what happened to the SMU mustangs back in 1987? So what do you think? Should the "U" be given the death penalty? What do you think will happen to the program? Will someone get fired or severely punished?Should the Unversity of Miami be given the Death Penalty for what happened?
I'd like to see more evidence than one person's say-so. Perhaps the threat of racketeering charges against former coaches and players will bring the picture into clearer focus. Some physical evidence would be great, but I doubt there's any paper trails to follow.
So let's suppose that there's plenty of evidence to back up the worst of Shapiro claims. That would mean there were payoffs over a sustained period of time. In that case, the U must get the death penalty. Everyone should be sacked, from the AD down. The only person I feel sorry for is first-year Coach Al Golden, who walked into this debacle. I assume if payoffs are this widespread, the incoming freshmen knew about it.
That said, I am skeptical they'll get it even if all charges are proven true. The NCAA is gutless and wilts to money. Without Miami, the ACC isn't much of a football conference. And with two very weak conferences in the BCS (I'm including the Big East), I think the NCAA would rather look spineless to all of us than to annoy their TV overlords.Should the Unversity of Miami be given the Death Penalty for what happened?
No, I don't think the death penalty will ever be used again. SMU never recovered and the school (students) suffered from the loss of sports revenue. Secondarily, the punishment was levied against the students who were not involved in the violations. Dickerson and James were already in the NFL three or four years. So, it did little good. Also, the NCAA has already handed down an overly harsh penalty on USC (one athlete) , while letting Ohio State (8 athletes) and Oregon (6 athletes) slide for essentially greater infractions. Now with Miami has 15 athletes under investigation. I don't think the NCAA has the ballz to put another big time program into the dirt. The loss of shared revenue from having USC, Miami, and OSU miss bowl games scares the crap out of the NCAA. Sure the NCAA does not benefit directly from bowl revenues, but the institutions do provide financial support to the NCAA through fees and other licensing agreements, so if the schools get shorted on one end, the NCAA looses the residual gain.
No.
1. SMU was put on major probation - losts of scholarships, no bowl games, no TV appearances - for paying players, then got busted for paying players a couple years later. This is Miami's first major violation in recent memory.
2. Judging by how far back SMU got sent by the Death Penalty, I dont think the NCAA could kill one of its most recognizable programs.
3. Most of the non-players (coaches, executives) involved are no longer with Miami. Why punish the people who had nothing to do with it?
4. Shapiro was an outside person coming in and giving benefits, SMU had a payroll for players to get them to go there from internal guys and recruiters.Should the Unversity of Miami be given the Death Penalty for what happened?
If you go by what the NCAA did to other schools then yes they should receive just that! What Miami has done has never been done on a bigger scale .
1.They should have their football program suspended for 5 years.
2.Anybody in their athletic department that had any idea this was going on should be fired.
3.No bowl games for 5 years after the suspension has been lifted!
USC got hammered for what 1 kids "parents" did.Miami has over 70 violations for what the kids themselves did .Wherever happens won't be enough.
Absolutely not... look what it did for SMU. That school is done forever... U of M is a noted nationally recognized program. Revenue is big now-a-days and Miami is a big money maker, plus the NCAA board said they would never do that again. However this is not their first offense. back in 2003 they had an investigation on the baseball program and were caught... titles will be stripped and department officials will get punished, but not the death penalty.Should the Unversity of Miami be given the Death Penalty for what happened?
If the U of Miami is found to have violated the NCAA rules on this it would not be the first time and I think the league will deal very harshly with them. The death penalty may be a little too harsh, but there will be a lot of scholarships that are revoked, they will have a long time before they can play in bowl games, and probably more sanctions. I think that we need to just wait until the NCAA finishes it's investigation and see if the allegations are proved to be true.
I think the NCAA should get the death Penalty.
I don't follow college sports much but it is more than obvious that most of the big name players are getting some type of kick back.
How does a family from the ghetto all of the sudden have the money for a house near the school or a Big SUV.
And i don't blame the players.
The schools are in it for the Money. And that's what is driving most of Division I programs
miami needs the death penalty, coaches are involved , the president is involved, all through the 80's and 90's infractions, the fight with FIU, luther campbell, the list goes on and on.
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